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lozaras
20-05-11, 13:18
Name - "official" name and what they were known as
John Payne

Date and place of birth
1807 don't know where because he died before census :(

Names of parents
no idea

Date and place of baptism - if applicable
unknown

Details of each of his or her marriages - if any
8th December 1833 at St Giles Cripplegate, London to Caroline Clarke

Occupation(s) - if any
Cabinet maker

Addresses where they lived (including county if in UK) - and please list which censuses you have or haven't found him/her on (if s/he lived in census times!).
1838 39 Ashford Street, Hoxton, Shoreditch, London (date of his daughter's birth)
1840 69 Charlotte Street, Old Street Road (in the St Leonard's registration district) (date of his death)

Date, place and cause of death
7th April 1840 (as above)
Consumption after 3 months

Date and place of burial.
10th April 1840 Bunhill Fields, London

Details of will / administration of their estate - if applicable
unknown

Memorial inscription - if any
unknown

maggie_4_7
20-05-11, 13:38
Charlotte Street is still there I walked down it the other day its the Shoreditch/Hoxton end of Old Street actually my dentist is practically on the corner. OH's relatives lived there at times. Not sure if 69 is still standing but a lot of the buildings down there have been there a long time. Some remain.

lozaras
20-05-11, 13:56
Thanks Maggie - Is it Charlotte Road now? a really narrow street? http://maps.google.fr/maps?q=charlotte+street,+old+street,+st+leonards,+ london&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&hl=en&tab=wl Charlotte Rd, Hackney, London EC2, UK

I don't know London at all...:(

oops - that link doesn't show what I thought it would....

maggie_4_7
20-05-11, 14:14
Yeah I know where it is I don't live far from it.

Yes it is Charlotte Road. Does it say Street on your census then? Maybe they've changed the name it was road on the census I have for OH's can't remember which ones now.

Do you want me to have a look at the buildings down there perhaps take a photo, I know OH's ancestors abode has gone and I'm not sure how old the buildings are they look very old but it's a fashionable part of town now :)

maggie_4_7
20-05-11, 14:21
This is a photo of Charlotte Road you can see the Gherkin in the City in the background I think 69 would have been to the left of the photo and bit of aways back I don't think the original building is there I think the one there is fairly new. That is looking from Old Street down towards the back of Liverpool St Station area so from Hoxton/Shoreditch towards the City of London.

Sorry I should say click on it to enlarge.

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maggie_4_7
20-05-11, 14:27
What was his daughter's name and did he have any other children that you know of?

maggie_4_7
20-05-11, 14:38
There is a baptism/Christening in St Giles Cripplegate for a John Payne.

6th January 1805 father John Payne mother Ann.

http://search.ancestry.co.uk/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&rank=1&f35=John&f37=payne&sx=&f21=&f25=&rg_f29__date=1805&rs_f29__date=0&f2=&f12=&f6=&f22=&f26=&rg_f30__date=&rs_f30__date=0&f3=&f13=&f7=&f23=&f27=&rg_f31__date=&rs_f31__date=0&f4=&f14=&f8=&f67=&f69=&f51=&f53=&f59=&f61=&f82=&gskw=&prox=1&db=lmaearlyparish&ti=5538&ti.si=0&gss=angs-d&pcat=34&fh=0&h=7090736&recoff=9+10+38&qid=c3befc98c09f48ad80baa1588743ae3e

I don't know if you can see that link.

I have just looked at the image it says father John Payne - Soldier.

lozaras
20-05-11, 16:03
The daughter's name was Caroline Rebecca Payne.

There were 2 sons before her but they both died in 1845 (aged 11 & 8) Kiterunner found their burials for me. Edwin Richard & William Adolphus.

Off to look at your link now. Thanks Maggie :)

lozaras
20-05-11, 16:08
Bother! I've only got bog-standard Ancestry access and can't see your link.

I tried looking on Hugh Wallis but can't find it either - well, not under St Giles, or Cripplegate anyway.
EDIT: doh!! It was under the sub-heading 'London' :p

Will try familysearchrecordsearch now.

lozaras
20-05-11, 16:17
ooooo!!!!

I found it on the IGI (the 06-01-1805 christening - born on 07.03.1804)

BUT

I think this one is more likely - look at the names!

born 29.05.1806
chr 22.06.1806

parents: Richard Payne & Rebecca Wiggins


*does a happy little jig - thanks Maggie!!